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Topic: 5:51 Take not the Jews and Christians as Auliya |
rowlandm
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Forum: Class Discussion Posted: Mon 18 Dec, 2006 8:28 am Subject: 5:51 Take not the Jews and Christians as Auliya |
The grant here is acceptable because it is not religiously motivated, rather it is to help education and that is a policy that apply to all
I would disagree and say it is religously motivated (fro ... |
Topic: 5:51 Take not the Jews and Christians as Auliya |
rowlandm
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Forum: Class Discussion Posted: Mon 18 Dec, 2006 8:22 am Subject: 5:51 Take not the Jews and Christians as Auliya |
cool stuff.
But I wanted to highlight that a "christian" is defined as someone who believes that Jesus Christ is the son of god and that if you don't believed that Jesus Christ is the son of god yo ... |
Topic: 5:51 Take not the Jews and Christians as Auliya |
rowlandm
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Forum: Class Discussion Posted: Sun 17 Dec, 2006 6:00 pm Subject: 5:51 Take not the Jews and Christians as Auliya |
Also, that 9:23 verse makes more sense if you take the translation as a literal helper/supporter/protector.
Your interpretation allows non-beliveing non-christian non-jewish mothers, sisters, au ... |
Topic: 5:51 Take not the Jews and Christians as Auliya |
rowlandm
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Forum: Class Discussion Posted: Sun 17 Dec, 2006 4:36 pm Subject: 5:51 Take not the Jews and Christians as Auliya |
Could you give me an example of that Ahmed? Sorry Slave of Allah, I didn't really understand the example.
I'm a little curious as The Arabic word "Auliya" is not interchangeable with "friend" in a ... |
Topic: 5:51 Take not the Jews and Christians as Auliya |
rowlandm
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Forum: Class Discussion Posted: Sun 17 Dec, 2006 12:24 pm Subject: 5:51 Take not the Jews and Christians as Auliya |
Thanks for the reply guys, sorry I've been so slack.
Now, to try and further narrow the definition of Auliya -
See verse 9:23
O you who believe! Take not for Auliya' (supporters and helpers) ... |
Topic: Disappointing website - that I found through the ABC |
rowlandm
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Forum: Bring it on Posted: Sun 17 Dec, 2006 12:21 pm Subject: Disappointing website - that I found through the ABC |
Now you know that I don't really get that fired up - but I must admit this particular website that I found through this ABC news online story really fired me up - and now that I have reflected on it - ... |
Topic: 5:51 Take not the Jews and Christians as Auliya |
rowlandm
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Forum: Class Discussion Posted: Sat 02 Dec, 2006 12:59 pm Subject: 5:51 Take not the Jews and Christians as Auliya |
I wanted to ask a few questions about this particular verse:
YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors ... |
Topic: 4:34 One aspect of husband/wife relations |
rowlandm
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Forum: Class Discussion Posted: Tue 28 Nov, 2006 5:34 pm Subject: 4:34 One aspect of husband/wife relations |
Sorry Ahmed,
For your reply you put down your belief on the strength of the beating - I was looking for an explicit quranic verse or sentence that could be allied to 4:34 to show what the maximum s ... |
Topic: 4:34 One aspect of husband/wife relations |
rowlandm
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Forum: Class Discussion Posted: Mon 27 Nov, 2006 11:29 pm Subject: 4:34 One aspect of husband/wife relations |
Actually, got a couple of more questions/clarifications I didn't think of before, mainly to do with Ahmed's comments here:
rowlandm wrote:
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Topic: 4:34 One aspect of husband/wife relations |
rowlandm
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Forum: Class Discussion Posted: Sun 26 Nov, 2006 10:08 am Subject: 4:34 One aspect of husband/wife relations |
Thanks for that Ahmed,
Finally, obviously the definition of the level of behaviour that is considered "ill-conduct" is based on the Quran. From your understanding of the Quran what would be some e ... |
Topic: Does anyone lose faith sometimes..... |
rowlandm
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Forum: Bring it on Posted: Sun 26 Nov, 2006 12:24 am Subject: Does anyone lose faith sometimes..... |
just debating religions with the athiest losers is nothing but a total waste of time, therefore the atheist should get out of it and leave religions to those who believe in it to sort it out between t ... |
Topic: Does anyone lose faith sometimes..... |
rowlandm
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Forum: Bring it on Posted: Sat 25 Nov, 2006 11:40 pm Subject: Does anyone lose faith sometimes..... |
Hi Dre,
I really wanted to highlight that religion, belief and faith is about accepting something without having 100% concrete proof (like Allah having a nice chat with you while he flys you around ... |
Topic: 4:34 One aspect of husband/wife relations |
rowlandm
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Forum: Class Discussion Posted: Sat 25 Nov, 2006 10:57 pm Subject: 4:34 One aspect of husband/wife relations |
Ahmed,
From the very little that I know of you, I would find it difficult to believe that you would resort to any kind of physical violence against your wife, given that you would only beat her if ... |
Topic: 4:34 One aspect of husband/wife relations |
rowlandm
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Forum: Class Discussion Posted: Sat 25 Nov, 2006 10:47 pm Subject: 4:34 One aspect of husband/wife relations |
rowlandm wrote:
and cause I know you have already debated 4:34 it might be a good start.
great, I actually copied the debate to my web site forum so you can pick it up from there and IÃ???????Ã? ... |
Topic: 4:34 One aspect of husband/wife relations |
rowlandm
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Forum: Class Discussion Posted: Sat 25 Nov, 2006 10:45 pm Subject: 4:34 One aspect of husband/wife relations |
This was taken from two PMs between myself and Ahmed and was moved to this forum for easier access
If you are keen I have a few questions already, and cause I know you have already debated 4:34 ... |
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